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Bush & king funeral

hatrack (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-08-06 10:03 AM
Response to Reply #39
55. "Shine the light" on this Bush lie - enjoy!
Once again George Bush is a day late and a dollar short. He was supposed to be giving a Budget Photo-Op today, until he got shamed into appearing at the funeral along with Clinton, Carter, and Bush Sr.. I'm sure he couldn't stand the thought of being upstaged. What will happen to the unused backdrops? Scotty came up with the lamest excuse possible for the change in plans - see the second article below.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/05/national/05bush.html
In a Change of Plans, Bush Says He Will Attend King's Funeral
By ELISABETH BUMILLER
Published: February 5, 2006
CRAWFORD, Tex., Feb. 4 — The White House announced here on Saturday that President Bush would attend the funeral of Coretta Scott King in Atlanta on Tuesday, postponing a scheduled trip to New Hampshire.
White House officials told reporters on Friday that Mr. Bush would be speaking about the federal budget on Tuesday in Manchester, N.H., but on Saturday afternoon the White House sent out an e-mail message saying that Mr. Bush would attend the funeral instead and was switching the New Hampshire trip to Wednesday. The president is also expected to speak at Mrs. King's funeral.
Scott McClellan, the White House press secretary, said in an e-mail message on Saturday that the change had been made because "the funeral arrangements were only very recently finalized" and the White House had not been ready to make an announcement until then. Mr. McClellan said "the president and Mrs. Bush are honored to be attending."
But Bishop Eddie Long, who will be officiating at the funeral services at the New Birth Missionary Baptist Church, said in a telephone interview on Saturday that he had initially heard from the King family that Mr. Bush would not be attending and that he planned to send Mrs. Bush and his father, the former president, instead. Mr. Long said he found out only on Saturday morning that Mr. Bush would be present after all.
http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0206/299504.html
Scott King's Funeral to Be Tue. in Atlanta
RSS Feeds From ABC 7
Thursday February 02, 2006 1:03pm
ATLANTA (AP) - Coretta Scott King's funeral will be held Tuesday at the suburban Atlanta Baptist church where the Kings' youngest child, Bernice, is a minister, according to the funeral director assisting the family with arrangements. Willie A. Watkins, director of the Willie Watkins Funeral Home in Atlanta, said Thursday that the funeral will be held at noon at New Birth Missionary Baptist Church in Lithonia, a suburb about 15 miles east of Atlanta.
Emphasis added.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

NYT cover - king 184

DU comment on snoop hearings

PATRICK (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-06-06 11:04 AM
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71. I don't get how
they can argue without the deepest humiliation. First Bush shoves aside all their laws and consent and FISA, tooled especially for a presidency under a separate unequal law, and then they must hold him to account for not availing himself of the approved super powers? In essence they have to sound pathetic no matter what tack they take that avoids centering on abuse of power and contempt of Congress and subverting the law recklessly, needlessly and in perfect textbook example of the most insulting cartoonish fashion WHY there were regulations to begin with. Nixon was the textbook. Hitler was the monster. Bush is the flippant cartoon of an utterly degraded system of law.
Yet the solemn debate. Like those high society dinners when the three stooges disrupt it with pie throwing. Except it isn't funny but mean and the Congressional stuffed shirts just pretend the pie are not in their faces and keep posing.

Sheehan, SOTU, Clinton times

On a thread discussing Sheehan's arrest, freeper tries the "they all do it" argument. Of course, he only highlights the differences:

Pryderi (917 posts) Wed Feb-01-06 09:03 AM
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25. Clinton did the same thing.
In the early days of the Senate's impeachment trial of President Bill Clinton in January 1999, a Pennsylvania man named Dave Delp was removed by the Capitol police from the Senate gallery for wearing a t-shirt that said, "Clinton doesn't inhale, he sucks."
A Pennsylvania school teacher was yanked out of a VIP Senate gallery and briefly detained last week during the impeachment trial for wearing a T-shirt with graphic language dissing President Clinton.
Dave Delp, 42, of Carlisle, Pa., and a friend had just settled into their seats when four Capitol security guards approached them. Delp said at the time that he was ordered to button his coat and follow the guards. Outside the chamber, he was told "several people felt threatened by your shirt."
Even after establishing that Delp was a guest of Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.), the guards wouldn't let him back in and escorted him to a basement security area, where they questioned and photographed him.

leveymg (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-01-06 09:13 AM
Response to Reply #25
30. Yes, but he wasn't arrested for "disorderly conduct"
That's the term for "protestor", a crime in the Constitution-free zone that has become anywhere Dubya happens to be.
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-01-06 09:15 AM
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32. Ummm, where does it say the man was arrested and charged?
Cindy was arrested and charged, quite different wouldn't you say?
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DemonFighterLives (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-01-06 09:20 AM
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33. Why don't you stick with the present
and stick with the party. I'm sure the freepers will find this ammo without your help.
Cindy Rocks!
Delp was an assclown.
Glad I could help!
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-01-06 09:20 AM
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34. Nice try. VIP, important issue, Santorum, no arrest - good parallel.
Thanks for bringing it up. It dramatizes more your guys' hypocrisy....Also, I don't remember the newspapers howling: "Republicans badly damaged by Delp's display"
But hey, we have our heroes, you have yours. We have our messages, you have yours. Always good to keep perspective.

A google search reveals this a freeper fabrication - which Drudge is now also spreading. No source in the past.

> Bin Laden family to end ties to Carlyle

> Bin Laden family to end ties to Carlyle

> http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,5-2001365686,00.html
>
> TUESDAY OCTOBER 23 2001
> Bin Laden family to end ties to Carlyle
> FROM CHRIS AYRES IN NEW YORK
> THE family of Osama bin Laden is close to ending its relationship
> with the Carlyle Group, the US investment group backed by George
> Bush Snr, the former President, and John Major, the former Prime
> Minister.
>
> It is understood that Carlyle Group and the Saudi Binladin Group,
> the Middle Eastern conglomerate owned by the family of bin Laden,
> have decided to part company by “mutual consent”

Archive:WH wanted to run government without congress

> THE WHITE HOUSE MADE A POWER PLAY TO RECEIVE EXTRAORDINARY POWERS, IF
> CONGRESS IS OUT OF SESSION, WITH ONLY THE APPROVAL OF DENNIS HASTERT!
>
> FROM THE WASHINGTON POST:
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35905-2001Oct22.html
>
> By Dana Milbank
> Washington Post Staff Writer
> Tuesday, October 23, 2001; Page A04
>
> Congressional negotiators balked at a White House proposal that would
> give the president new powers to keep the government open if Congress
> could not meet because of a crisis.
>
> The Bush administration last week suggested an emergency spending
> procedure that would allow a president, in consultation with
> congressional leaders, to continue government operations for 30 days at
> existing funding levels if spending authority expires during a time of
> crisis when Congress cannot convene.
>
> The White House dropped the proposal when congressional and
> administration aides could not agree on the structure of such a
> mechanism. In their haste to vacate Capitol Hill because of an anthrax
> scare, lawmakers instead agreed to extend interim legislation to keep
> the government running until Oct. 31 without making a policy for future
> emergencies.
>
> Rep. David R. Obey (Wis.), ranking Democrat on the House Appropriations
> Committee, said the White House had sought to give the president power
> to extend government operations for 30 days if the president had the
> permission of the speaker of the House, in this case J. Dennis Hastert
> (R-Ill.).
>
> "We were willing to give them some short-term authority if they had the
> agreement of both parties in both houses," Obey said. Aides to President
> Bush talked about such a plan with congressional aides, but the Bush
> proposal "was very different from what had been discussed on the phone,"
> Obey said. "On both sides of the aisle in the House it was felt that was
> too far-reaching."
>
> Bush aides now indicate that getting such powers for the president is
> not a top priority, making it unlikely such a proposal will become law.
> But the proposal, which comes in the wake of the Sept. 11 terrorist
> attacks and when congressional offices have been closed because of fears
> of anthrax, underscores the government's new concerns about catastrophic
> terrorism in the United States.
>
> While scholars say it would be controversial, if not unconstitutional,
> for Congress to delegate its purse-strings authority to the president,
> Amy Call, a spokeswoman for the White House Office of Management and
> Budget, said the emergency provision would only be activated when
> congressional leaders gave their approval. "This would be a decision by
> congressional leaders in participation with the president," she said.
>
> Robert D. Reischauer, a former director of the Congressional Budget
> Office and now president of the Urban Institute, said there would likely
> be nothing unconstitutional about members of Congress delegating
> authority to their own leaders. "It's not a crazy thing to develop some
> kind of mechanism to ensure the government can continue operating," he
> said. "If the alternative is shutting down the government, I can't
> really see why it would be objectionable."
>
> Bush aides said that while the proposal is not meant to shift power from
> the legislative to executive branch, they were not optimistic Congress
> would approve a measure that even appeared to make such a shift.
> "Publicly, they're not going to give up any prerogatives," an official
> said.
>
> Existing law does not have a provision stipulating what would happen if
> Congress could not meet to authorize government spending, Reischauer
> said. But under the Civil War-era Feed and Forage Act, the military
> could continue to buy supplies without budget authority, he said.
>
> The Wall Street Journal reported yesterday that Vice President Cheney's
> staff promoted the idea of giving the president authority to keep the
> government operating for up to 30 days if Congress could not convene.
>
> The current federal fiscal year began on Oct. 1 without Congress passing
> any of the 13 annual spending bills needed to fund the government. The
> government has continued to operate under short-term spending bills
> Congress has passed and Bush has signed.
>
> Staff writer Dan Morgan contributed to this report.
>
>
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New offer on Bin Laden (Archive)

New offer on Bin Laden
http://www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/story/0,1361,575593,00.html
Minister makes secret trip to offer trial in third country

Rory McCarthy in Islamabad
Wednesday October 17, 2001
The Guardian

A senior Taliban minister has offered a last-minute deal to hand over Osama bin Laden during a secret visit to Islamabad, senior sources in Pakistan told the Guardian last night.

For the first time, the Taliban offered to hand over Bin Laden for trial in a country other than the US without asking to see evidence first in return for a halt to the bombing, a source close to Pakistan's military leadership said.

Yahoo caption

Yahoo photo caption

US President George W. Bush arrives at Osaka International Airport in Japan with First Lady Laura Bush. Americans trust US President George W. Bush less than they trusted his predecessor, Bill Clinton, and they are increasingly losing confidence in his leadership, a poll showed(AFP/Paul J. Richards)

Kerry/Edwards victims? (DU exchange

DU exchange: Are Kerry/Edwards victims?
82. Victims of the theft, perpetrators of the lie (that Bush won)

The theft is the primary crime, but the lie itself (that even you buy to some extent) is damaging too - as it makes us fight the wrong battles ("the perfect candidate" "work harder" raise more money" - all meaningless in a no elections country)

NYT: Bloomberg cruises, Corzine wins costly...

.
2 elections with obscene spending - in one both candidates spend (Corzine and the GOP) in the other one candidate obliterates the other with 100 million (that we know of) plus scares donors from opposition. Yet, one's victory is a cruise, a lansslide, reason fr celebration. The other guy's is "surprising" - and dirty tricks (ex-wife for the opposition) are brough back in the news.
Why? because the "cruiser" is GOP, and the "costly winner" a dem.
And I mentioned NYT, but all media , print and Tv is doing it - and NOBODY NOTICES

Tough question (W - Rov)

Scotty refuses to answer "W has confidence in Karl Rove?"
Al Franken played a clip from the last press conference:
The question is posed repeatedly.
Scotty zigs and zags "won't respond in context of an ongoing investigation" and "check transcripts of previous answers"
Al Frenken did - and the answer was then "yes" (ongoing investigation being also present). Hmmmm...so what changed?

Howie does the blogosphere

Even gets to quote fellow clarkie Armando over at Kos:
The Judy Chronicles
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/linkset/2005/04/11/LI2005041100587.html
By Howard Kurtz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, October 17, 2005; 6:39 AM
At Daily Kos, Armando starts by quoting Bush's
's insistence he'd fire any Plame leakers and McClellan's denial that Rove was involved:
Of course Karl Rove was involved up to his eyeballs. And Karl Rove still works at the White House. And George Bush is a liar"
and also
and has an interesting tidbit from her interview with WSJ:
The Wall Street Journal lands a brief Judy interview and asks about the "Valerie Flame" notation in her notebook:
"'I don't remember who told me the name,' she said, growing agitated. 'I wasn't writing a story, remember?' Asked if the other source was Mr. Rove, she replied, 'I'm not going to discuss anyone else that I talked to.'"

Laying under the plane

Was Rove playing "mime" "sounds like: Lying about Plame?"

"Who remembers "laying under the plane?" (sounds like lying about"
Author Bushknew    


Plame?
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=176743
The Associated Press
McGUIRE AIR FORCE BASE, N.J. Oct. 18, 2004 - Karl Rove laid himself on
the line Monday for his boss, the president of the United States.

W's "contrition" speech - DU comment

MADem
13. Brian Williams nailed it
This morning on Imus he wondered "What was he doing behind that statue before they cued him to come out???"
They spent ten minutes talking about shirtsleeves, not much on the speech itself. They concurred that the contrition should have been the first two paragraphs, not buried in the speech, and opined that he just does not know how to say sorry to anyone for anything.
I thought it was dreadful. No people, the backlit blue cathedral that matched his shirt, if he was going for a "rebuilding moment" it didn't cut it--he looked like the last guy to leave Disneyland--fucking Goofy, indeed.


radfringe (
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8. my immediate impressions of bush*'s speech


if his 9-11 speech, while standing atop rubble with his arm around a fireman, was his "bullhorn" moment -- then standing outside a church in New Orleans was his bullsh*t moment.
-- the "casual" look, not an accident, no one forgot to dress him before he appeared swaggering across the lawn. Shirt sleeves, no tie and no jacket were to give the impression of someone ready to get to work, a regular guy ready to shovel out the muck, grab a hammer and start building
-- he begin by giving a list of heroic efforts and actions. Poor choice for a lead off - all this did was to remind people how much WASN'T done by FEMA
-- the 800#, , sounded like he was pitching zirconia jewelry for the homeshopping network
-- most disturbing was the pitch for a power grab, we've seen what putting all the departments in one bag has done, and now he wants to stuff more into the bag.
-- investigation - unless it's free of bush* cronies and kool-aid drinkers - it won't mean a damn thing
I've printed out the transcript and will be reading it more closely -- meanwhile 4 out 5 cats in my home left the room during the speech, 1 gave it 2 hairballs, 2 out of 3 dogs gave it a fart, and the other dog snored
addendum (on edit) all those references to god, faith-based this and that, funerals etc -- the only thing missing was the back-up choir shouting out the "amens"
and did you catch the "talking point" - connecting katrina to 9-11. I know he's made this "connection" in the past few days in other statements -- HOWEVER, this is going to be the "new improved theme" instead of 9-11 changed everything, it will be Katrina changed everything
and Krugman
Krugman Pegs Bush’s Speech
September 16th, 2005
Paul Krugman pegs Bush’s speech and lets the cat out of the bag…
Now it begins: America’s biggest relief and recovery program since the New Deal. And the omens aren’t good.
It’s a given that the Bush administration, which tried to turn Iraq into a laboratory for conservative economic policies, will try the same thing on the Gulf Coast. The Heritage Foundation, which has surely been helping Karl Rove develop the administration’s recovery plan, has already published a manifesto on post-Katrina policy. It calls for waivers on environmental rules, the elimination of capital gains taxes and the private ownership of public school buildings in the disaster areas. And if any of the people killed by Katrina, most of them poor, had a net worth of more than $1.5 million, Heritage wants to exempt their heirs from the estate tax.
here ...

W gridiron mccain joke (Modo)

At the Gridiron, Mr. Bush slyly joked that he had the "dangedest puppy" who would roll over on command - but only some of the time. "I renamed him 'John McCain.' "
(from MoDo article)
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/17/opinion/17dowd.html?

Putting the ASS in Compassion

Bordering on cruelty

Falwell's daddy

From a recent New Yorker:
"There were times that Dad’s pranks bordered on cruelty. One of his oil-company workers, a one-legged man he nicknamed “Crip” Smith, complained about everything. Dad and Crip’s co-workers got tired of the old man’s bellyaching and decided to take revenge. One morning Crip called in sick and Dad volunteered to send by lunch to his grateful but suspicious employee. Dad and his chums caught Crip’s old black tomcat, killed it, skinned it, and cooked it in the kitchen of one of Dad’s little restaurants. They called it squirrel meat and delivered it to Crip on a linen-covered tray. When Crip returned to work the next morning, Dad and his co-conspirators asked him how he liked his meal. They knew he would complain even about a free home-cooked lunch, and when Crip called it “the toughest squirrel meat” he had ever eaten, they were glad to tell him why."

—The Reverend Jerry Falwell, in “Strength for the Journey: An Autobiography.”

Kicking Rather again

US free media retaliated to Putin accusation: "shocking Putin statement that he'll watch Oscars rather than news makes page one!

Newsweek washing up Putin's remarks

It's not clear how well Putin understands the controversy that led to the dismissal of four CBS journalists over the discredited report on Bush's National Guard service. Yet it's all too clear how Putin sees the relationship between Bush and the American media—just like his own. Bush's aides have long feared that former KGB officers in Putin's inner circle are painting a twisted picture of U.S. policy. So Bush explained how he had no power to fire American journalists. It made little difference. When the two presidents emerged for their joint press conference, one Russian reporter repeated Putin's language about journalists getting fired. Bush (already hot after an earlier question about his spying on U.S. citizens) asked the reporter if he felt free. "They obviously planted the question," said one of Bush's senior aides.
more…
Of course, Dick Cheney's calls to CNN as spilled by Wes Clark"
That's the reason I was attacked all through the war by guys like Dick Cheney for being an armchair general, because they knew I was against what they were doing. And they were right. And now we see why everybody should have been against it.
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