Not Your Sweetie

Dear John
Part Two

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by py on 01/24/2004 04:06:07 PM EST

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Kerry's view of Clark's middle class tax cuts

He questioned whether Clark's plan, unveiled this week, to eliminate taxes on people earning less than $50,000 a year "kind of excuses them from a sense of responsibility for the country."
Kerry's Income and Wealth
Annual Net Income: $15,550,935 - $77,540,000
Net Worth: $198,794,683 - $839,038,000
Now, who's the Republican again, Senator Kerry?


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by Robbedvoter (Robbedvoter at forclark dot com) on 01/24/2004 02:12:21 PM EST

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http://bmcw.forclark.com/story/2004/1/23/222022/594/






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by py on 01/24/2004 12:23:27 PM EST

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There is a discussion on Democratic Underground here about the Drudge story that John Kerry criticized Bush as a deserter in 2000. However, many people posting there seem to believe that Drudge got the story wrong, confusing Massachusetts Senator John Kerry with Nebraska Senator Bob Kerrey.  If you are on Democratic Underground, please straighten them out.  Actually, in 2000 both criticized Bush as a deserter as the AP reported at the time:

At Gore's Pittsburgh rally, Nebraska Sen. Bob Kerrey used his introduction of Gore to accuse Bush of lying when he said he never disclosed the arrest in order to protect his young daughters. "Governor, you're covering your rear end. You were protecting yourself. You were concerned about what might happen to you," Kerrey said. "How dare you say that your character is superior to Vice President Gore."
The Nebraska senator and Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, both wounded in Vietnam, contended it's also a matter of character that Bush avoided duty oversees by joining the Texas Air National Guard. No documents have been found to show he reported for duty as ordered in Alabama in 1972.
"Those of us who were in the military wonder how it is that someone who is supposedly serving on active duty, having taken that oath, can miss a whole year of service without even explaining where it went," said Kerry.
What concerns me is not the accusation against Bush, which the facts support, but Kerry's defense of Bush this week on Crossfire, as Robbedvoter has discussed here.


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Kerry's speech on preemtion
by Robbedvoter (Robbedvoter at forclark dot com) on 01/24/2004 11:58:37 AM EST

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http://www.cfr.org/publication.php?id=5722


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by Robbedvoter (Robbedvoter at forclark dot com) on 01/24/2004 11:06:16 AM EST

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   Kerry, Lieberman skip final Medicare vote to return to campaign trail
 
Find this article at:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/20031125-1356-democrats-medicare.html
By Sam Hananel
ASSOCIATED PRESS
1:56 p.m. November 25, 2003
WASHINGTON - The only two senators to miss the final vote on landmark Medicare legislation were Democratic presidential candidates John Kerry and Joe Lieberman, who returned to the campaign trail Tuesday.
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"There was no question about the passage," said Kerry, who was stumping in Iowa on Tuesday. "The vote was not going to make a difference in the outcome."
I wonder what the excuse is for the Omnibus bill then.


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by Robbedvoter (Robbedvoter at forclark dot com) on 01/24/2004 10:36:35 AM EST

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 Kerry's conundrum
Pro-gay in just about every other way, Democratic presidential hopeful John Kerry says he just won't support same-sex marriage
By Chris Bull
snip
http://www.advocate.com/html/stories/898/898_kerry.asp
What exactly is your argument?
Kerry:My argument is that marriage is a union between men and women as defined through centuries. End of argument. Period. I don't make procreation or any other argument about it. It's just the way I've seen the issue. 
Advocate: When you say it's "the way I've seen the issue," it sounds like you might be open to changing your position.
Kerry: Will I come to a different view sometime down the road? Who knows? 


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by roseba (divina1@hotmail.com) on 01/24/2004 10:29:09 AM EST

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I have expressed my doubts about Kerry here:
http://robbedvoter.forclark.com/story/2004/1/23/134438/097
It's a bit harsh.



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by Robbedvoter (Robbedvoter at forclark dot com) on 01/24/2004 07:21:35 AM EST

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Sybil's research is here:
http://sybil.forclark.com/story/2004/1/11/21437/8099


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by Robbedvoter (Robbedvoter at forclark dot com) on 01/24/2004 07:17:29 AM EST

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The smear campaign
TNR has copies of the smear sheets Kerry is using
in NH if any of you want to look. Truly disgusting.
 
http://www.tnr.com/blog/campaignjournal


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by Robbedvoter (Robbedvoter at forclark dot com) on 01/24/2004 06:22:05 AM EST

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Kerry in 2000
Senator plays role of Gore loyalist, Boston Globe, November 6 2000
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"[Senator John] Kerry, a decorated Navy veteran of Vietnam, said Bush
should be scrutinized because he ends every speech by raising his
hand, taking a mock oath of office, and pledging to restore honor and
integrity to the White House. ''How is it that someone who's
supposedly serving on active duty, having supposedly taken that oath,
can miss a whole year of service without explaining where it went?''
Kerry asked the crowd."
Crossfire,Jan 23, 2000:
NOVAK: Senator Kerry, at last night's debate, General Clark was asked about a statement made in his presence by Michael Moore that President Bush is a -- was a deserter.
In the absence -- and General Clark said he didn't know anything about that, but he didn't know one way or the other.
KERRY: Yes.
NOVAK: In the absence of any -- any allegations to that effect, what do you think of calling the president of the United States a deserter? Or do you have some information that that is accurate?
KERRY: No, obviously, I don't. I think it's over-the-top language, Bob. And I think that's not what my campaign is about
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0401/23/cf.00.html.
So, John, were you speaking without knowing in 2000, or you forgotten since? And is this how you intend to confront W and the Rove machine?



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by Robbedvoter (Robbedvoter at forclark dot com) on 01/23/2004 10:02:13 AM EST

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0401230445212">http://www.democracynow.orgarticle.pl?sid"red">0401230445212
AMY GOODMAN: But there is a fact about Kerry's past that brings him closer to Bush than any other candidate. Both Bush and Kerry are members of a secretive society dating back to their respective days at Yale University. It's called "Skull and Bones." This fact has not been widely reported, but when Kerry's campaign spokesperson was asked about it, she said, quote, "John Kerry has absolutely nothing to say on that subject. Sorry.


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by Robbedvoter (Robbedvoter at forclark dot com) on 01/23/2004 06:46:40 AM EST

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http://www.startribune.com/stories/587/4332464.html
Kerry, the winner of the Democratic caucuses in Iowa, has accepted money from two figures who later were prosecuted for election violations. He also has received substantial donations from telecommunications, media and steel companies overseen by committees on which he sits.


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by Robbedvoter (Robbedvoter at forclark dot com) on 01/22/2004 06:18:37 PM EST

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Kerry justifying the Syria accountability act
http://jasonfromwaltham.forclark.com/story/2004/1/22/1801/68576


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by Robbedvoter (Robbedvoter at forclark dot com) on 01/22/2004 07:25:24 AM EST

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Last night, at a NH townhall, Clark was introduced by a veteran who drew a comparison to kerry in his speech. Nothing vicious, just facts. In the end, Clark distanced himself from the comments, saying that he likes Kerry. People appreciated it ans told him so.
      Mr Robbedvoter  was impressed since 2 days ago, in Iowa, kerry was smiling over another vet spouting Shelton smears about Clark - who wasn't even competing there. No distancing - and Mr Robevoter was disturbed by it then.
      So, as to clarify: this blog is to collect facts only. I have no intent to attack or smear - simply to effective respond to attacks which I know are forthcoming.
Mr Kerry, you may still learn from Clark to campaign above the road. If you do, this stuff stays here. if you don't, it travels. I am not a statesman. I am just a Clark supporter, a free agent, a big mouthed new Yorker. That means, I will defend him from smears. So it;s up to you, John.


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by Robbedvoter (Robbedvoter at forclark dot com) on 01/22/2004 06:39:56 AM EST

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Dissing the coup 2000 again
by katusha (katush@email.com) on 01/22/2004 05:43:01 AM EST
just saw kerry answering about how being a southerner helps in the pres. race and kerry said "if where you were from mattered then Al Gore would be president today"
Sen Kerry Al Gore IS the president today!!
just another example of how you roll over for the right wing when it matters. maybe you used to fight nixon and the establishment but that was before you became the establishment.


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by Robbedvoter (Robbedvoter at forclark dot com) on 01/21/2004 03:54:41 PM EST

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I want a 2004 candidate who lets the world see what Al Gore would be like if he were a Yankee.
I want a Democratic nominee who, like Bush, eschews federal matching funds for his political campaign -- but only after blaming rival Howard Dean for dropping out of the matching-fund system first.
I want Kerry to win the nod so that he can raise enough money to pay off the loan and the mortgage he took out on his Boston home after he said no to matching funds.
And then I want to hear Kerry denounce the pernicious influence of big- money special interests.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/01/18/EDGLQ4APBC1.DTL


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by Robbedvoter (Robbedvoter at forclark dot com) on 01/21/2004 12:39:43 PM EST

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*    Waffling on Iraq:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/1/20/131219.shtml
 Kerry has the tough job of wooing Howard Dean's anti-war Democrats despite his support of the war in Iraq. His favorite tactic, claiming the president outfoxed him, doesn't hold up to scrutiny.
On "Meet the Press" in late August, Tim Russert played a tape of Kerry addressing the Senate in October 2002 with a hard-line speech declaring Iraq "capable of quickly producing weaponizing" of biological weapons that could be delivered against "the United States itself."
Kerry insisted: "That is exactly the point I'm making. We were given this information by our intelligence community."
However, as columnist Robert Novak noted, "as a senator, Kerry had access to the National Intelligence Estimate that was skeptical of Iraqi capability. Being tricky may no longer be as effective politically as it once was."
No doubt Dean, Lieberman, Clark and other rivals will now use these and other details to do to Kerry what the Democrats did to Dean.


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by Robbedvoter (Robbedvoter at forclark dot com) on 01/21/2004 07:58:11 AM EST

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by Marla on 01/21/2004 07:41:57 AM EST
This was posted last night by someone else, but it is worth repeating......little Rock take note.
" My wife and I were in Washington DC last April. We watched many sessions of congress at a time Bush was making war. John Kerry was silent. As a senior Democrat, John Kerry failed to provide sound leadership at one of the most crucial times in American History. Many did have the guts to speak out, John Kerry was not one of them."


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by Robbedvoter (Robbedvoter at forclark dot com) on 01/20/2004 02:26:29 PM EST



  
For Immediate Release
Date: December 3, 2003
Clark Campaign Response to Senator Kerry's Fondness for James Baker
http://clark04.com/press/release/103/
Clark Campaign Communications Director Matt Bennett issued the following statement in response to Senator Kerry's comments today at the Council on Foreign Relations:
"Senator Kerry's suggestion that he might use Bush family consigliere James Baker as a special envoy to the Middle East is offensive. Baker, who was the driving force behind George W. Bush's theft of the 2000 election in the Florida recount, helped to disenfranchise thousands of voters.
We liked it better when Senator Kerry was calling Baker's Florida operation 'thuggism.' If Kerry wants a former Secretary of State who headed a recount effort in Florida, let's stay away from political thugs and go with Warren Christopher."




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by Robbedvoter (Robbedvoter at forclark dot com) on 01/20/2004 06:15:22 AM EST

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http://Blog.forclark.com/story/2003/12/22/221958/58
I wander was that Syrian accountability act in place by October 2003 when Clark asked Kerry to dismantle the preemption doctrine because W will attack more countries? Do you know? We need more on this.


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by Robbedvoter (Robbedvoter at forclark dot com) on 01/20/2004 06:09:53 AM EST

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http://markusd.forclark.com/story/2004/1/19/123431/541


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by JasonFromWaltham (jasondavis@massforclark.com) on 01/20/2004 01:03:34 AM EST

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Don't forget authoring the Syria accountability act giving bush the power to take beligerant actions vs Syria. (quietly passed through congress in the fall... sshhhh... I am a constiuent.... I am not supposed to know his real record.)


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by Robbedvoter (Robbedvoter at forclark dot com) on 01/19/2004 05:54:47 PM EST

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by julianyc (julianyc at forclark dot com) on 01/19/2004 05:09:04 PM EST
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As for Kerry's comments on Clark being a lobbyist
This is from the Center for Public Integrity's site. 
http://www.bop2004.org/bop2004/report.aspx?aid=4
Kerry's campaign has criticized General Clark for his brief stint as a lobbyist.  Seems that Kerry was pretty close to a lobbyist himself for a telecom firm that gave him a LOT of money -- maybe he should have registered as a lobbyist as General Clark did -- but Clark wasn't in the US Senate at the time!
Kerry Carries Water for Top Donor
By M. Asif Ismail
WASHINGTON, May 7, 2003 -- Sen. John F. Kerry, D-Mass., whose largest campaign contributor lobbies on behalf of telecommunication interests, pushed the legislative priorities of its clients in the wireless industry on several occasions, a Center for Public Integrity analysis of campaign, lobbying and congressional records has found. That analysis is part of the Center's research for The Buying of the President 2004 (to be published by HarperCollins), which tracks the financial backers and interests of the major candidates for the White House.
Kerry, who is seeking the Democratic presidential nomination, has sponsored or co-sponsored a number of bills favorable to the industry and has written letters to government agencies on behalf of the clientele of his largest donor.
Boston-based Mintz, Levin, Cohn, Ferris, Glovsky and Popeo P.C. has been the biggest financial backer of the Massachusetts Democrat's two decades-long political career in elected office, with its employees contributing nearly $187,000 to various Kerry races, including his current presidential campaign.
Kerry's ties to the firm go beyond campaign contributions. His brother Cameron F. Kerry is an attorney at the firm's Boston office, and David Leiter, who was the Senator's chief of staff for six years, is a lobbyist for ML Strategies LLC, a Mintz, Levin affiliate that provides consulting and lobbying services.
Mintz, Levin advertises communications law among its areas of expertise and lobbies on behalf of wireless industry clients such as AT&T Wireless Service, XO Communications Inc. and the Cellular Telecommunications & Internet Association. CTIA is the trade association of the wireless industry; its more than 320 members include carriers, manufacturers and wireless Internet providers. CTIA-affiliated companies and their employees have contributed at least $152,000 to Kerry. The amount includes contributions made to his presidential campaign and his previous election efforts, his political action committees and the 527 group that Kerry formed. Verizon employees donated close to a third of that amount ($45,400).
Kerry and his wife Teresa Heinz Kerry have substantial holdings in telecommunications companies; between $17.6 million and $47.1 million of their combined fortune is held in companies with a stake in the industry, the Center's analysis of his financial disclosure form revealed. That falls in a range of roughly 7 percent to 11 percent of the couple's combined $165 million to $626 million in assets. Most of the fortune, and the stocks, belong to Heinz Kerry.
Some $3.9 million to $13.9 million of those holdings are in companies which are members of CTIA.
It goes on and on................


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by Robbedvoter (Robbedvoter at forclark dot com) on 01/19/2004 11:08:53 AM EST

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http://john-in-houston.forclark.com/story/2004/1/19/103814/848


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by John in Houston (John-in-Houston at forclark dot com) on 01/19/2004 11:03:43 AM EST

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There IS a need to explain to voters what the differences are between Clark and Kerry.


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by Robbedvoter (Robbedvoter at forclark dot com) on 01/19/2004 10:39:08 AM EST

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by John in Houston (John-in-Houston at forclark dot com) on 01/19/2004 10:34:55 AM EST
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Where was Kerry?
http://www.independentsforkerry.org/uploads/media/kerry-iraq.html
If you compare Sen. Kerry's Senate speech in support of the war resolution with Gen. Clark's testimony before the Senate, several things jump out.
One point is that Clark makes important distinctions about the nature of the threat of Iraq which Kerry does not. Kerry focusses on Iraq as the threat, rather than a threat. Kerry speaks of the threat of bio-chem and nuclear WMD all on the same level, while Clark points out that we do not have evidence of an active nuclear program.
The big difference, however, is that Kerry insists on accountability and verification for Saddam...but not for Bush. The resolution had a hole in it a mile wide, and Bush drove right through it.
Clark agreed with Kerry that there must be diplomacy backed by force, that the U.S. must work through the U.N., that we had to act in concert with an international coalition, and that there should be a postwar plan, although Kerry only mentions reconstruction vaguely.
But Clark urged that before the President was authorized to use force, the President must come back to Congress and verify:

1.     That ll diplomatic efforts had in fact failed
2.     That an international coalition had in fact been formed
3.     That a postwar reconstruction plan had been formed and was in place


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by Robbedvoter (Robbedvoter at forclark dot com) on 01/18/2004 04:01:49 PM EST

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http://ann.forclark.com/story/2004/1/15/13339/2911
Clark: Shaheen also backed Nixon
1/15/2004
Former New Hampshire governor Jeanne Shaheen, the cochairwoman of Senator John F. Kerry's New Hampshire campaign, this week rapped retired Army General Wesley K. Clark over his Democratic credentials -- in particular, his votes for Republican presidents Richard M. Nixon, Ronald Reagan, and George H.W. Bush. But the Clark campaign yesterday pointed out that Shaheen herself voted for Nixon in 1968. Shaheen revealed that fact to a Globe reporter in 1995, in a story about her political evolution. At the time, she told the Globe, she was concerned about disarray in the Democratic Party. Shaheen voted for George McGovern against Nixon in 1972 and got involved in New Hampshire Democratic politics shortly thereafter, according to the story. The Kerry campaign sniffed at the Shaheen-Clark comparison. "For 35 years, Jeanne Shaheen has been a leading Democrat in New Hampshire," said Kerry spokesman Michael Meehan. "Wes Clark has been a Democrat in New Hampshire for about 3 1/2 seconds." (Globe Staff)



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by Anonymous on 01/15/2004 01:06:43 PM EST

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Robbed - There is a lot of great stuff here. I would like to see you refurbish the material in the Comments here and add some further documentation of Kerry's stated positions and then reblog it all under a title like "Why not John Kerry?" in light of the tightening race in NH with Kerry coming from below (see the ARG NH poll for Jan 15). And also post some of these things to the GS blog, the way we hit on women's issues. We have been so geared toward anti-Dean argumentation, we need to sharpen our skills at anti-Kerry argumentation.With undecideds lurking let's make it easy for them to find all these goodies.  Good work!!!
John in Houston

Kerry's sense of priorities
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by Robbedvoter (Robbedvoter at forclark dot com) on 01/15/2004 11:30:27 AM EST

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MATTHEWS:  Senator John Kerry joins us right now from the debate site.
Senator Kerry, I don`t know if you`ve heard--I`m sure you have.  In addition to tonight`s debate, there`s big news out in the country tonight.  That`s that the former secretary of the Treasury Paul O`Neill who was, I guess it`s fair to say, fired by the president, has some bad news for the country.  He says the president`s people, including the president, decided from Inauguration Day that they were going to Iraq.  What do you make of that?  Is that intel, or is that rumor?
KERRY:  Well, I think it--it ought to be examined.  It`s an extraordinary statement.  It`s an accusation that calls into question everything that the administration put in front of us, and I think it bears examination.
But, look, what`s important here tonight, Chris, is that when Howard Dean holds up that newspaper and talks about what`s happening, he`s avoiding the truth of his own statements, and he didn`t answer the question about what he said in October....
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3939628/


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by Robbedvoter (Robbedvoter at forclark dot com) on 01/15/2004 11:18:55 AM EST

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:
> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030131/ap_on_go_co/congress_iraq_4
>
> Two senior Democratic senators, Robert Byrd
> of West Virginia and Ted Kennedy of
> Massachusetts, this week proposed separate
> bills on the matter. Byrd's would require President
> Bush (news - web sites) to seek a fresh vote
> in the U.N. Security Council before attacking Iraq;
> Kennedy's would require new votes in
> Congress before doing so.
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> But the chance of approval for either
> measure is slim, given GOP control of the Senate and a
> lack of enthusiasm from Democratic
> congressional leaders.
>
> The bills aren't supported by any of the
> four Democratic members of Congress running for
> president: Sens. John Kerry of
> Massachusetts, Joe Lieberman (news - web sites) of
> Connecticut and John Edwards of North
> Carolina, and Rep. Richard Gephardt (news, bio,
> voting record) of Missouri.


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Kerry loves preemption
by Robbedvoter (Robbedvoter at forclark dot com) on 01/15/2004 11:16:30 AM EST

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Senator Kerry issued the following statement
after the president's
(sic) speech last night:
"Even having botched the diplomacy, it is
the duty of any president,
in the final analysis, to defend this nation
and dispel the security
threats, both immediate and longer term,
against it. Saddam Hussein
has brought military action upon himself by
refusing for 12 years to
comply with the mandates of the United
Nations."


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Nobody asked
by Robbedvoter (Robbedvoter at forclark dot com) on 01/15/2004 11:14:00 AM EST

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On Sunday's Meet The Press, host Tim Russert asked
both Joe Biden (D-DE) and John Kerry (D-MA) if they
had been asked to
sign a protest by
members of the House. Both said that they hadn't
been asked, but if they
had been, neither would
have signed. Kerry, in fact said, "I was struck
yesterday...I sort of was
taken aback...nobody
came to me and asked me to sign it. Had they, I
would've had the same
reaction as Joe did.
http://www.nationalreview.com/george/george010901.shtml


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by Robbedvoter (Robbedvoter at forclark dot com) on 01/15/2004 11:12:44 AM EST

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kerry said this on his floundering campaign:
"We got crowded out by the other events," he said. "Very simple.
Crowded out by first the Internet and Dean and the war, and then
crowded out by Arnold Schwarzenegger, and then crowded out by the new
face on the block [Clark]. Now's the time for people to focus and say
who can be president."


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by Robbedvoter (Robbedvoter at forclark dot com) on 01/14/2004 04:52:29 PM EST

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Why did John Kerrry not vote on the recent Medicare bill?????
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=108&sessio n=1&vote=00459
Why did John Kerry tell the Florida Democratic Party convention that he voted against the medicare bill????
Address to Florida Democratic Party on December 6, 2003:  "I voted against that medicare bill....."  (21 minutes into his speech).
It is with a bit of irony that Kerry chose to lie to the Florida Democratic party about his voting against the medicare bill given what occurred there in the 2000 election.  Yes, every vote does count --- even that of a Senator from Massachusetts.  It does not matter that the bill was going to be passed with or without Senator Kerry's vote.  How can Senator Kerry tell the people in this country that their vote does matter and that every single vote counts and that they should all get out there and participate in this thing we call democracy. 
The people of Massachusetts elected him to stand up and be counted --- luckily for them they at least have someone like Sen. Kennedy who took the time to actually vote against the bill.


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by texifornia (texifornia2@yahoo.com) on 01/12/2004 07:29:20 PM EST

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Rebut to Kerry's "he's not a Democrat" nonsense:
Clark may have voted Republican in 1980, but Kerry has been voting Republican in the U.S. Senate for the last 18 years!
Rebut to Bush's "O'Neil was not privy to all the Iraq information". They like to say that O'Neil is not qualified to comment on National Security issues because he was, after all, the Treasury Secretary. What they forget to mention is that Paul O'Neil was a member of the National Security Council.
If the National Security Council did not have the information on Iraq, who the hell did??? Was the decision to invade Iraq not on the NSC's agenda? Why the hell not? Who was privy to the Iraq intelligence if not the NSC????
That should make 'em squirm.