Bin Laden tape - selectively released. Missing paragraph:
This similarity was striking with Bush the Elder when he visited in the area. At the same time, some of our people (the Saudis) were fascinated by the USA and were hoping that his visit to our countries might influence us; however Bush instead became influenced by these people and their regimes, and he started to envy them, as they sit there for many decades in their positions and are stealing their country's money with any kind of audits or control. After that, he took up the same method of repression and restricting freedoms which under the guise of the Patriot Act, under the cover of the War on Terror.
Bush the Elder liked the idea that his sons would take over power from the father. He has also not forgotten the tactics of his own skills at voter cheating, like in Florida, so he could use them in an emergency
71. This tape is not addressed to his followers, but to us
he is using western language (wasn't he educated in England?)
he wants to influence the election, he wants to maintain the status quo that serves him. he is smart enough not to make a direct statement on this, but instead adopts a "spoiler" stance (see "Nader" for details)
The hope here is to keep people from voting.
I cannot say if the BFEE/Bin Ladin entreprise (Carlyle) was directly involved in soliciting his services or this was an OBL initiative. He is enough of a megalomaniac to want the feeling that he decides this country;s future - but not dumb enough to risk helping along a regime change to a more competent leader.
So, while the planning may have not existed, he did make BFEE a gift (again) and it was received as such - see what W's operative boast:
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/247753p-212149c ....
See tape as boost for Prez
We want people to think 'terrorism' for the last four days," said a Bush-Cheney campaign official. "And anything that raises the issue in people's minds is good for us."
A senior GOP strategist added, "anything that makes people nervous about their personal safety helps Bush."
He called it "a little gift," saying it helps the President but doesn't guarantee his reelection.
Sunday, October 31, 2004
Friday, October 22, 2004
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/102304W.shtml
It is, instead, an election about the presidency of George W. Bush. To the surprise of virtually everyone, Bush has turned into an important president, and in many ways the most radical America has had since the 19th century. Because he is the leader of America’s conservative party, he has become the Left’s perfect foil - its dream candidate. The libertarian writer Lew Rockwell has mischievously noted parallels between Bush and Russia’s last tsar, Nicholas II: both gained office as a result of family connections, both initiated an unnecessary war that shattered their countries’ budgets. Lenin needed the calamitous reign of Nicholas II to create an opening for the Bolsheviks.
It is, instead, an election about the presidency of George W. Bush. To the surprise of virtually everyone, Bush has turned into an important president, and in many ways the most radical America has had since the 19th century. Because he is the leader of America’s conservative party, he has become the Left’s perfect foil - its dream candidate. The libertarian writer Lew Rockwell has mischievously noted parallels between Bush and Russia’s last tsar, Nicholas II: both gained office as a result of family connections, both initiated an unnecessary war that shattered their countries’ budgets. Lenin needed the calamitous reign of Nicholas II to create an opening for the Bolsheviks.
Krugman: don't be magnanimous!
http://www.mollyivins.com/showArticle.asp?ArticleID=177...
TO: The day after the election, what’s the column if Kerry wins?
PK: Do not be magnanimous in victory. I hope the people around him understand that this is not politics as we know it. It’s not, “OK, well, we won an election. After the election we’ll get together and work in a bipartisan way to help the country.” They didn’t work in a bipartisan way when the United States was attacked. They immediately saw it as a way to achieve political dominance. Kerry has got to understand that he has a window of opportunity to expose what’s going on and to rock these people back to the point where we can try to reclaim the normal workings of democracy. Unless there’s a true miracle and the Democrats take the House—which is extremely unlikely—it’s going to be very bitter political civil war from Day One. The House leadership will try to undermine Kerry. I’m sure they’ll try to impeach him almost immediately. On anything.
We can go on and on about Tom DeLay, but the point is Tom DeLay is not an aberrant thing. He’s not an accident. The whole thrust of where we’ve been going for a couple of decades in this country has been towards putting someone like Tom DeLay in a position of great power. So, my column to Kerry, my open letter to him if he wins, will be: Do not be magnanimous. You need to expose and dismantle this machine...."
http://www.mollyivins.com/showArticle.asp?ArticleID=177...
TO: The day after the election, what’s the column if Kerry wins?
PK: Do not be magnanimous in victory. I hope the people around him understand that this is not politics as we know it. It’s not, “OK, well, we won an election. After the election we’ll get together and work in a bipartisan way to help the country.” They didn’t work in a bipartisan way when the United States was attacked. They immediately saw it as a way to achieve political dominance. Kerry has got to understand that he has a window of opportunity to expose what’s going on and to rock these people back to the point where we can try to reclaim the normal workings of democracy. Unless there’s a true miracle and the Democrats take the House—which is extremely unlikely—it’s going to be very bitter political civil war from Day One. The House leadership will try to undermine Kerry. I’m sure they’ll try to impeach him almost immediately. On anything.
We can go on and on about Tom DeLay, but the point is Tom DeLay is not an aberrant thing. He’s not an accident. The whole thrust of where we’ve been going for a couple of decades in this country has been towards putting someone like Tom DeLay in a position of great power. So, my column to Kerry, my open letter to him if he wins, will be: Do not be magnanimous. You need to expose and dismantle this machine...."
Monday, October 18, 2004
on DU:
montana500 (230 posts) Mon Oct-18-04 07:02 PM
Original message
Dick Morris on Faux: Bush is in trouble. Only one way he can win.
Suggests October surprise is Bush's only chance
MORRIS: “I think there’s gonna be a huge turnout. All the voter registration figures are up, the polling indicates.”
O’REILLY: “Who does that favor?”
MORRIS: “It probably favors Kerry. And I do believe he’ll get a very strong, very intense minority vote. There’s only one thing that can save George Bush. Think about how we felt in August. Think about how jeopardized and endangered we felt with photos of the stock exchange and IMF building circulating. The Al Qaeda militants, bombs possibly at the two conventions, the Olympics. We felt really in danger. Now we feel fat and happy. We’re felling pretty good. We turn on the TV set about Iraq. We watch it with half an eye, but nobody really thinks there’s gonna be anything happening here. If that’s the environment on November 2nd, Kerry’s gonna win. But, if - and I’m not suggesting Bush would fabricate it - - but if, in fact, Al Qaeda chooses to begin actions, to threaten stuff, to do stuff here, which they did in Israel and they did in Madrid right before the election, then I think that could elect Bush...Osama bin Laden will determine if Bush wins or not.”
Follow-up:
Morris just finished an appearance on “Big Story with John Gibson” (10/15/04, 5:03 PM EDT) in which he said essentially the same things, only this time he was very careful NOT to use the words “and I’m not suggesting Bush would fabricate it.”
http://www.newshounds.us/2004/10/15/dick_m...to_win.php...
montana500 (230 posts) Mon Oct-18-04 07:02 PM
Original message
Dick Morris on Faux: Bush is in trouble. Only one way he can win.
Suggests October surprise is Bush's only chance
MORRIS: “I think there’s gonna be a huge turnout. All the voter registration figures are up, the polling indicates.”
O’REILLY: “Who does that favor?”
MORRIS: “It probably favors Kerry. And I do believe he’ll get a very strong, very intense minority vote. There’s only one thing that can save George Bush. Think about how we felt in August. Think about how jeopardized and endangered we felt with photos of the stock exchange and IMF building circulating. The Al Qaeda militants, bombs possibly at the two conventions, the Olympics. We felt really in danger. Now we feel fat and happy. We’re felling pretty good. We turn on the TV set about Iraq. We watch it with half an eye, but nobody really thinks there’s gonna be anything happening here. If that’s the environment on November 2nd, Kerry’s gonna win. But, if - and I’m not suggesting Bush would fabricate it - - but if, in fact, Al Qaeda chooses to begin actions, to threaten stuff, to do stuff here, which they did in Israel and they did in Madrid right before the election, then I think that could elect Bush...Osama bin Laden will determine if Bush wins or not.”
Follow-up:
Morris just finished an appearance on “Big Story with John Gibson” (10/15/04, 5:03 PM EDT) in which he said essentially the same things, only this time he was very careful NOT to use the words “and I’m not suggesting Bush would fabricate it.”
http://www.newshounds.us/2004/10/15/dick_m...to_win.php...
[b]CREATING REALITY[/b]
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html?oref=login&oref=login&oref=login&pagewanted=all&position
"In the summer of 2002, after I had written an article in Esquire that the White House didn't like about Bush's former communications director, Karen Hughes, I had a meeting with a senior adviser to Bush. He expressed the White House's displeasure, and then he told me something that at the time I didn't fully comprehend -- but which I now believe gets to the very heart of the Bush presidency.
The aide said that guys like me were 'in what we call the reality-based community,' which he defined as people who 'believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.' I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. 'That's not the way the world really works anymore,' he continued. 'We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.'
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html?oref=login&oref=login&oref=login&pagewanted=all&position
"In the summer of 2002, after I had written an article in Esquire that the White House didn't like about Bush's former communications director, Karen Hughes, I had a meeting with a senior adviser to Bush. He expressed the White House's displeasure, and then he told me something that at the time I didn't fully comprehend -- but which I now believe gets to the very heart of the Bush presidency.
The aide said that guys like me were 'in what we call the reality-based community,' which he defined as people who 'believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.' I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. 'That's not the way the world really works anymore,' he continued. 'We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.'
Sunday, October 17, 2004
Warning: W will use new language
Aides had alerted reporters to expect "new language" in Bush's routine rejection of Democratic rival John Kerry (news - web sites)'s warnings that the Iraq (news - web sites) war has so strained the US armed forces that compulsory military service may be around the corner.
"Our all-volunteer army will remain an all-volunteer army," Bush began, to cheers from supporters here in Florida, the richest prize among the dozen or so states up for grabs in the November 2 election.
"My opponent seems to be willing to say almost anything he thinks will benefit him politically," he said. "After standing on the stage, after the debates, [b]I made it very plain we will not have an all-volunteer army."[/b] "And yet this week..." he continued, before suddenly realizing the gaffe and shouting: "We will have an all-volunteer army."
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1506&u=/afp/2...
Aides had alerted reporters to expect "new language" in Bush's routine rejection of Democratic rival John Kerry (news - web sites)'s warnings that the Iraq (news - web sites) war has so strained the US armed forces that compulsory military service may be around the corner.
"Our all-volunteer army will remain an all-volunteer army," Bush began, to cheers from supporters here in Florida, the richest prize among the dozen or so states up for grabs in the November 2 election.
"My opponent seems to be willing to say almost anything he thinks will benefit him politically," he said. "After standing on the stage, after the debates, [b]I made it very plain we will not have an all-volunteer army."[/b] "And yet this week..." he continued, before suddenly realizing the gaffe and shouting: "We will have an all-volunteer army."
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1506&u=/afp/2...
On Bartcop forum:
"Times has (temporary) deathbed conversion"
Author samela
is is a very powerful editorial, notable less for its "enthusiastic" endorsement of Kerry, for which I am grateful, than for the bulk of its content---a searing indictment of the Bush administration, spelled out in detail and step by step, on every domestic and foreign policy outrage. It should be required reading.
But I am struck by how the normally vapid Sunday Times is today filled with other must-read articles as well. To wit:
(1) Frank Rich's sizzling rant on how the Bush administration is "knee-capping" the media. (Read beyond the somewhat suspect protestations over Judith Miller's fate. It really is a chilling, and telling, piece, even if it is from the guy who found Al Gore too wooden).
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/14/arts/17rich.html
(2) An expose of human rights abuses in Guantanamo. The shocking techniques described herein are truly a day late and a dollar short. We already read the report of allegations by two British prisoners who were released--and their stories conform entirely with the new allegations being lodged by unnamed US personnel who are now speaking out. It's important. Read it, too.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/politics/17gitmo.html?hp&ex=1098072000&en=e29ccfe1afd6371a&ei=5094&partner=homepage
(3) The real story about why there are no flu vaccines this year---because Big Pharma doesn't find vaccine making profitable, and because they don't want to spend the money to make them safely, as required by Clinton-era reforms. They don't take Bush to task for lying about the reasons in the debate the other night, but it effectively serves as an indictment of this administration for having done nothing on this front. It ends with a direct slam on them for allocating nothing to a "real" disease that kills tens of thousands each year while dumping $5.8 Billion on drug companies to develop anthrax vaccines, a disease no one has. Read it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/health/17flu2.html?hp&ex=1098072000&en=d2dfea7c2bb70b63&ei=5094&partner=homepage
"Times has (temporary) deathbed conversion"
Author samela
is is a very powerful editorial, notable less for its "enthusiastic" endorsement of Kerry, for which I am grateful, than for the bulk of its content---a searing indictment of the Bush administration, spelled out in detail and step by step, on every domestic and foreign policy outrage. It should be required reading.
But I am struck by how the normally vapid Sunday Times is today filled with other must-read articles as well. To wit:
(1) Frank Rich's sizzling rant on how the Bush administration is "knee-capping" the media. (Read beyond the somewhat suspect protestations over Judith Miller's fate. It really is a chilling, and telling, piece, even if it is from the guy who found Al Gore too wooden).
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/14/arts/17rich.html
(2) An expose of human rights abuses in Guantanamo. The shocking techniques described herein are truly a day late and a dollar short. We already read the report of allegations by two British prisoners who were released--and their stories conform entirely with the new allegations being lodged by unnamed US personnel who are now speaking out. It's important. Read it, too.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/politics/17gitmo.html?hp&ex=1098072000&en=e29ccfe1afd6371a&ei=5094&partner=homepage
(3) The real story about why there are no flu vaccines this year---because Big Pharma doesn't find vaccine making profitable, and because they don't want to spend the money to make them safely, as required by Clinton-era reforms. They don't take Bush to task for lying about the reasons in the debate the other night, but it effectively serves as an indictment of this administration for having done nothing on this front. It ends with a direct slam on them for allocating nothing to a "real" disease that kills tens of thousands each year while dumping $5.8 Billion on drug companies to develop anthrax vaccines, a disease no one has. Read it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/health/17flu2.html?hp&ex=1098072000&en=d2dfea7c2bb70b63&ei=5094&partner=homepage
Saturday, October 16, 2004
Digby: Jon Stewart's show is mocking THE MEDIA, not politics
Dumboys
I don't know how many of you are watching Crossfire, but Jon Stewart is on and he's making both Tuckie and Paul a tad uncomfortable.
They seem to be unaware that The Daily Show is a parody of the news and that its mission is to make fun of them. And that's because they are so insular and self-referential that they have no idea how the country really sees them.
They don't like it. Especially the Tuckster who is plainly wants to scratch his eyes out.
Stewart is trying to make the point that they are contributing to the dumbing down of the discourse by presenting this fake news, or political theatre, that they pretend is news. He isn't being funny and he isn't doing the usual celebrity circle jerk and they are finding it very discomfiting.
Good.
Dumboys
I don't know how many of you are watching Crossfire, but Jon Stewart is on and he's making both Tuckie and Paul a tad uncomfortable.
They seem to be unaware that The Daily Show is a parody of the news and that its mission is to make fun of them. And that's because they are so insular and self-referential that they have no idea how the country really sees them.
They don't like it. Especially the Tuckster who is plainly wants to scratch his eyes out.
Stewart is trying to make the point that they are contributing to the dumbing down of the discourse by presenting this fake news, or political theatre, that they pretend is news. He isn't being funny and he isn't doing the usual celebrity circle jerk and they are finding it very discomfiting.
Good.
Freeper woman lawyer writes Derbyshire (National review)
RE: MY BOY BILL
The following got my attention.
"Derb---I am a lawyer in . My practice is entirely employment law, representing management (i.e., defendants). I do a lot of sexual harassment claims -- companies like being represented by a woman attorney, looks better.
"I read through the huge and detailed complaint. I also have some doubts -- if it was all that bad, WHY would she keep going out to dinner with him, go back to work for him, etc. But the quotes in the complaint bother me, because it suggests they were taped. And the allegations are really bad. This isn't just a guy at work being obnoxious, it is someone in a position of power over an employee, and that is what makes it particularly bad. No one should have to tolerate the things in the complaint in relation to their job (unless it is consensual, of course -- that's a different issue).
"All that being said, I come back to something that I have learned over 12 years of practice in this area -- the more outrageous the allegations, the more likely they are to be true. People don't make up outrageous stuff, they make up (or exaggerate) mild stuff. That's a generalization, of course, and certainly an individual could make up outrageous stuff -- particularly if there is a partisan reason, and there are lots of reasons to think this is partisan, the timing of it in particular. But in the back of my mind, I'm not liking this...."
Posted at 10:24 AM
http://www.nationalreview.com/thecorner/corner.asp
RE: MY BOY BILL
The following got my attention.
"Derb---I am a lawyer in . My practice is entirely employment law, representing management (i.e., defendants). I do a lot of sexual harassment claims -- companies like being represented by a woman attorney, looks better.
"I read through the huge and detailed complaint. I also have some doubts -- if it was all that bad, WHY would she keep going out to dinner with him, go back to work for him, etc. But the quotes in the complaint bother me, because it suggests they were taped. And the allegations are really bad. This isn't just a guy at work being obnoxious, it is someone in a position of power over an employee, and that is what makes it particularly bad. No one should have to tolerate the things in the complaint in relation to their job (unless it is consensual, of course -- that's a different issue).
"All that being said, I come back to something that I have learned over 12 years of practice in this area -- the more outrageous the allegations, the more likely they are to be true. People don't make up outrageous stuff, they make up (or exaggerate) mild stuff. That's a generalization, of course, and certainly an individual could make up outrageous stuff -- particularly if there is a partisan reason, and there are lots of reasons to think this is partisan, the timing of it in particular. But in the back of my mind, I'm not liking this...."
Posted at 10:24 AM
http://www.nationalreview.com/thecorner/corner.asp
Friday, October 15, 2004
Jon Stewart on Crossfire:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0410/15/cf.01.ht...
In many ways, it's funny. And I made a special effort to come on the
show today, because I have privately, amongst my friends and also in
occasional newspapers and television shows, mentioned this show as
being bad.
(LAUGHTER)
BEGALA: We have noticed.
STEWART: And I wanted to -- I felt that that wasn't fair and I should
come here and tell you that I don't -- it's not so much that it's bad,
as it's hurting America.
(LAUGHTER)
CARLSON: But in its defense...
(CROSSTALK)
STEWART: So I wanted to come here today and say...
(CROSSTALK)
STEWART: Here's just what I wanted to tell you guys.
CARLSON: Yes.
STEWART: Stop.
(LAUGHTER)
STEWART: Stop, stop, stop, stop hurting America.
BEGALA: OK. Now
(CROSSTALK)
STEWART: And come work for us, because we, as the people...
CARLSON: How do you pay?
STEWART: The people -- not well.
(LAUGHTER)
BEGALA: Better than CNN, I'm sure.
STEWART: But you can sleep at night.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0410/15/cf.01.ht...
In many ways, it's funny. And I made a special effort to come on the
show today, because I have privately, amongst my friends and also in
occasional newspapers and television shows, mentioned this show as
being bad.
(LAUGHTER)
BEGALA: We have noticed.
STEWART: And I wanted to -- I felt that that wasn't fair and I should
come here and tell you that I don't -- it's not so much that it's bad,
as it's hurting America.
(LAUGHTER)
CARLSON: But in its defense...
(CROSSTALK)
STEWART: So I wanted to come here today and say...
(CROSSTALK)
STEWART: Here's just what I wanted to tell you guys.
CARLSON: Yes.
STEWART: Stop.
(LAUGHTER)
STEWART: Stop, stop, stop, stop hurting America.
BEGALA: OK. Now
(CROSSTALK)
STEWART: And come work for us, because we, as the people...
CARLSON: How do you pay?
STEWART: The people -- not well.
(LAUGHTER)
BEGALA: Better than CNN, I'm sure.
STEWART: But you can sleep at night.
caledoni (416 posts) Fri Oct-15-04 12:25 PM
Response to Original message
45. Zogby Gallups
I've been registered with Zogby for a long time. Rarely did they poll me. Then I tried somehting. I said I voted for der kleine fuhrer in 2000 (though giving him the lowest of marks.) Now I'm polled all the time.
Response to Original message
45. Zogby Gallups
I've been registered with Zogby for a long time. Rarely did they poll me. Then I tried somehting. I said I voted for der kleine fuhrer in 2000 (though giving him the lowest of marks.) Now I'm polled all the time.
Platoon defies orders in Iraq
A 17-member Army Reserve platoon with troops from Jackson and around the Southeast deployed to Iraq is under arrest for refusing a "suicide mission" to deliver fuel, the troops' relatives said Thursday.
The soldiers refused an order on Wednesday to go to Taji, Iraq — north of Baghdad — because their vehicles were considered "deadlined" or extremely unsafe, said Patricia McCook of Jackson, wife of Sgt. Larry O. McCook.
http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=...
A 17-member Army Reserve platoon with troops from Jackson and around the Southeast deployed to Iraq is under arrest for refusing a "suicide mission" to deliver fuel, the troops' relatives said Thursday.
The soldiers refused an order on Wednesday to go to Taji, Iraq — north of Baghdad — because their vehicles were considered "deadlined" or extremely unsafe, said Patricia McCook of Jackson, wife of Sgt. Larry O. McCook.
http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=...
Thursday, October 14, 2004
Debate comments on Atrios:
2) My mother was a delusional paranoid...that fixed, forced smile and those vacant eyes looked all to familiar to me...the man was creeping me out more than usual.
Anti Meme
Anyone notice that his answer to everything was education?
Outsourcing? education
tax relief? education
domestic security? education
illegal immigrants? education with a temp work card.
Ed
------------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't get it. The question regards minimum wage. Kerry gives a detailed policy position answer. Bush talks about "Mitch McConnell's plan" for five seconds, the flips over to education. A total flop. Not one media pundit has mentioned it.
Media sucks ass cause they're a bunch of whores. What's not to get?
fourlegsgood
That foaming was just some coke residue. That's how they got him to smile.
de Sade
Did anyone notice how Bush basically said that all the black and hispanic people in the country are poor?
Don't you worry about that. We'll send those darkies to community college and have them reading, writing, adding, and subtracting in no time. Laziness can be cured.
MillionthMonkey
------------------------------------------------------------------------
CNN poll - who won
Kerry 52
Bush 39
Larry King just announced.
Schneider: "just about as decisive a win for Kerry as in the first debate."
AWESOME
Gee |
Does anyone else find it ironic Bush is okay with purchasing flu vaccine manufactured in Canada but not okay with our simply buying pre packaged drugs actually manufactued here? Geez.
Mrs French
telltakeheart:
I don't hold a grudge - I would hire him as my pool boy
TelltakeHeart.
He'll drink every beer in the fridge and piss it out in your pool, but I admire your forgiving nature.
stencil
Bob Kerrey told Brokaw that George Bush senior was more responsible for the balanced budgets in the 90's than Clinton. This is who was offered as balance to Guilliani.
Anonymous
CBS "Undecideds" polled after the Debate:
Who won?
KERRY 39%
Bush 25%
Tie 36%
Bush actually went into Negative numbers while babbling on about lost jobs
Keery, on "does he offer specific plan,
Before debate 35%
After Debate 60%!!!!
thought
Everyone from the Bushie camp looks like their dog died.
They're wrong.
It was their chimp.
fourlegsgood
Bush''s Prescription Drug Program:
Debate 1: Ny-Quil
Debate 2: Cocaine
Debate 3: Prozac
HeavyJ
O'Lielly and Bush, bitchslapped, both on the same day, did I die and go to Heaven?
Ind4ke
Tomorrow on Fox and Friends : "Why Drool is Cool!"
David Ehrenstein
2) My mother was a delusional paranoid...that fixed, forced smile and those vacant eyes looked all to familiar to me...the man was creeping me out more than usual.
Anti Meme
Anyone notice that his answer to everything was education?
Outsourcing? education
tax relief? education
domestic security? education
illegal immigrants? education with a temp work card.
Ed
------------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't get it. The question regards minimum wage. Kerry gives a detailed policy position answer. Bush talks about "Mitch McConnell's plan" for five seconds, the flips over to education. A total flop. Not one media pundit has mentioned it.
Media sucks ass cause they're a bunch of whores. What's not to get?
fourlegsgood
That foaming was just some coke residue. That's how they got him to smile.
de Sade
Did anyone notice how Bush basically said that all the black and hispanic people in the country are poor?
Don't you worry about that. We'll send those darkies to community college and have them reading, writing, adding, and subtracting in no time. Laziness can be cured.
MillionthMonkey
------------------------------------------------------------------------
CNN poll - who won
Kerry 52
Bush 39
Larry King just announced.
Schneider: "just about as decisive a win for Kerry as in the first debate."
AWESOME
Gee |
Does anyone else find it ironic Bush is okay with purchasing flu vaccine manufactured in Canada but not okay with our simply buying pre packaged drugs actually manufactued here? Geez.
Mrs French
telltakeheart:
I don't hold a grudge - I would hire him as my pool boy
TelltakeHeart.
He'll drink every beer in the fridge and piss it out in your pool, but I admire your forgiving nature.
stencil
Bob Kerrey told Brokaw that George Bush senior was more responsible for the balanced budgets in the 90's than Clinton. This is who was offered as balance to Guilliani.
Anonymous
CBS "Undecideds" polled after the Debate:
Who won?
KERRY 39%
Bush 25%
Tie 36%
Bush actually went into Negative numbers while babbling on about lost jobs
Keery, on "does he offer specific plan,
Before debate 35%
After Debate 60%!!!!
thought
Everyone from the Bushie camp looks like their dog died.
They're wrong.
It was their chimp.
fourlegsgood
Bush''s Prescription Drug Program:
Debate 1: Ny-Quil
Debate 2: Cocaine
Debate 3: Prozac
HeavyJ
O'Lielly and Bush, bitchslapped, both on the same day, did I die and go to Heaven?
Ind4ke
Tomorrow on Fox and Friends : "Why Drool is Cool!"
David Ehrenstein
Wednesday, October 13, 2004
O"really fantasies:
"If you cross FOX NEWS Channel, it's not just me, it's Roger Alies who will go after you. I'm the street guy make loud noises about the issues, but Alies operates behind the scenes, strategies and makes things happen so one day BAM! That person gets what's coming to them but never sees it coming. Look at Al Franken, one day he is going to get a knock on his door and life as he's known it will change forever. That day will happen trust me."
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1013043mackris12.html
"If you cross FOX NEWS Channel, it's not just me, it's Roger Alies who will go after you. I'm the street guy make loud noises about the issues, but Alies operates behind the scenes, strategies and makes things happen so one day BAM! That person gets what's coming to them but never sees it coming. Look at Al Franken, one day he is going to get a knock on his door and life as he's known it will change forever. That day will happen trust me."
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1013043mackris12.html
Ron Suskind:
A very funny scene early in Richard Ben Cramer’s book about the 1988 Presidential campaign, “What It Takes,” shows Bush blowing his stack when he sees his father’s White House chief of staff, Craig Fuller, sitting in what he regards as a family seat at a baseball game, and, without a second’s thought, loudly complaining about Fuller’s presumptuousness. That kind of assurance shows a deep sense of comfort with being in the superior position, but not necessarily a deep sense of self-confidence.
And, in trying to figure out his position on an issue, Bush, like a lot of other politicians, doesn’t so much analyze as look for a hook—a phrase or a way of framing the issue that feels instinctively right to him. In his case, instinct usually takes him to a position where he is in charge and everyone else has to adjust.
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/
A very funny scene early in Richard Ben Cramer’s book about the 1988 Presidential campaign, “What It Takes,” shows Bush blowing his stack when he sees his father’s White House chief of staff, Craig Fuller, sitting in what he regards as a family seat at a baseball game, and, without a second’s thought, loudly complaining about Fuller’s presumptuousness. That kind of assurance shows a deep sense of comfort with being in the superior position, but not necessarily a deep sense of self-confidence.
And, in trying to figure out his position on an issue, Bush, like a lot of other politicians, doesn’t so much analyze as look for a hook—a phrase or a way of framing the issue that feels instinctively right to him. In his case, instinct usually takes him to a position where he is in charge and everyone else has to adjust.
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/
Monday, October 11, 2004
James Wolcott on the 2nd debate:
Empty Volcano
Posted by James Wolcott
http://www.jameswolcott.com/
For much of last night's debate George Bush looked like a blister about to pop. Loud, mouthy, swaggering, interested only in hearing himself lay down the law, he behaved like a verbally abusive husband. Not a wifebeater but a browbeater with a bar-fighter's grin. It is astonishing and sobering that this dull roar with a one-track mind that runs on tank treads is fighting for reelection instead of facing impeachment; his lies and failures have fed thousands of graves, and filled thousands more hospital beds with bodies and psyches that will never be whole again. And still our mainstream pundits can not, will not see him for what he is. He cracks a corny joke, and they marvel at his Reaganesque humor. He hollers at Charlie Gibson, and he's hailed as a take-charge guy.
Fortunately, the cable-news spinmeisters seem to matter less and less in the framing of the debate reaction--they've insulted the viewers' sense of reality too many times.
it was Kerry who was persuasively presidential last night, a perception that may widen over the coming days as the footage of Bush hollering like a hogcaller are replayed to a cringing nation.
Empty Volcano
Posted by James Wolcott
http://www.jameswolcott.com/
For much of last night's debate George Bush looked like a blister about to pop. Loud, mouthy, swaggering, interested only in hearing himself lay down the law, he behaved like a verbally abusive husband. Not a wifebeater but a browbeater with a bar-fighter's grin. It is astonishing and sobering that this dull roar with a one-track mind that runs on tank treads is fighting for reelection instead of facing impeachment; his lies and failures have fed thousands of graves, and filled thousands more hospital beds with bodies and psyches that will never be whole again. And still our mainstream pundits can not, will not see him for what he is. He cracks a corny joke, and they marvel at his Reaganesque humor. He hollers at Charlie Gibson, and he's hailed as a take-charge guy.
Fortunately, the cable-news spinmeisters seem to matter less and less in the framing of the debate reaction--they've insulted the viewers' sense of reality too many times.
it was Kerry who was persuasively presidential last night, a perception that may widen over the coming days as the footage of Bush hollering like a hogcaller are replayed to a cringing nation.
Saturday, October 09, 2004
Friday, October 08, 2004
Fineman turns on W - "sounds desperate"
Many observers have said the Bush team was too smart by half in insisting that the first debate be about foreign policy and defense — that is, Iraq. I am told that this wasn't done out of arrogance or ignorance; it was done that way in part to leave them plenty of time to repair any damage if Bush screwed up.
Many observers have said the Bush team was too smart by half in insisting that the first debate be about foreign policy and defense — that is, Iraq. I am told that this wasn't done out of arrogance or ignorance; it was done that way in part to leave them plenty of time to repair any damage if Bush screwed up.
Thursday, October 07, 2004
Betty Bowers on Cheney's BS:
So, I was pleased to hear Mr. Cheney announce last night that the newest, if not most willing, members of America's exclusive coalition, if only for the convenience of already being there, are the Iraqis themselves. I guess instead of leveling with foreign countries to win allies, we are simply going to level foreign countries.
So, I was pleased to hear Mr. Cheney announce last night that the newest, if not most willing, members of America's exclusive coalition, if only for the convenience of already being there, are the Iraqis themselves. I guess instead of leveling with foreign countries to win allies, we are simply going to level foreign countries.
Wednesday, October 06, 2004
More proof W started the "hate France" campaign personally:
NY Post reports
President Bush privately refers to French President Jacques Chirac, who bitterly opposed Bush's Iraq policy, as "The Jackass," according to a new book.
"The relationship between your president and ours is irreparable on the personal level," a U.S. official told a senior French military aide, according to the book, "Chirac Versus Bush — The Other War."
(snip)
* Before the bitterly divided U.N. Security Council took up Iraq in early 2003, the French entourage met in Germany's U.N. mission because it was the only unbuggable place they could find.
The White House wouldn't take any calls from the French leadership for weeks after the U.S.-led invasion
I knew it was a personal grudge it as soon as I read an article about his attempt to blackmail Vincente Fox into supporting the war by saying: "A funny thing happened to France"
It was confirmed by this observation:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/09/16/tsurumi/in ...
Students who challenged and embarrassed Bush in class would then become the subject of a whispering campaign by him, Tsurumi said. "In class, he couldn't challenge them. But after class, he sometimes came up to me in the hallway and started bad-mouthing those students who had challenged him. He would complain that someone was drinking too much. It was innuendo and lies. So that's how I knew, behind his smile and his smirk, that he was a very insecure, cunning and vengeful guy."
NY Post reports
President Bush privately refers to French President Jacques Chirac, who bitterly opposed Bush's Iraq policy, as "The Jackass," according to a new book.
"The relationship between your president and ours is irreparable on the personal level," a U.S. official told a senior French military aide, according to the book, "Chirac Versus Bush — The Other War."
(snip)
* Before the bitterly divided U.N. Security Council took up Iraq in early 2003, the French entourage met in Germany's U.N. mission because it was the only unbuggable place they could find.
The White House wouldn't take any calls from the French leadership for weeks after the U.S.-led invasion
I knew it was a personal grudge it as soon as I read an article about his attempt to blackmail Vincente Fox into supporting the war by saying: "A funny thing happened to France"
It was confirmed by this observation:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/09/16/tsurumi/in ...
Students who challenged and embarrassed Bush in class would then become the subject of a whispering campaign by him, Tsurumi said. "In class, he couldn't challenge them. But after class, he sometimes came up to me in the hallway and started bad-mouthing those students who had challenged him. He would complain that someone was drinking too much. It was innuendo and lies. So that's how I knew, behind his smile and his smirk, that he was a very insecure, cunning and vengeful guy."
Tuesday, October 05, 2004
4:09 p.m. Don't accuse them of being subtle
The DNC just handed out what they're calling a "Halliburton Hospitality Gift Bags" to members of the media here. Inside, everyone gets their very own no-bid contract, a fake check for $2 million, a $45 can of soda and a $100 box of laundry detergent. You have to give Terry McCauliffe credit. If nothing else, he is creative.
http://www.cleveland.com/weblogs/vpdebate/
The DNC just handed out what they're calling a "Halliburton Hospitality Gift Bags" to members of the media here. Inside, everyone gets their very own no-bid contract, a fake check for $2 million, a $45 can of soda and a $100 box of laundry detergent. You have to give Terry McCauliffe credit. If nothing else, he is creative.
http://www.cleveland.com/weblogs/vpdebate/
Saturday, October 02, 2004
James Wolcott's blog:
Last night I believe we saw the ugly comeback of the private face of Bush--the irritable expressions he flashes subordinates when he's presented with information he doesn't like or feels someone's taken up too much of his time or is pressed to explain himself to people he shouldn't have to explain himself to because he's the president and fuck you. The notion that Bush is "likeable" has always been laughable. It takes a Washington pundit to be that dumb. He's an angry, spoiled, resentful little big man--I use "little big man" in the Reichian sense of a small personality who puffs himself up to look big through bluster and swagger but remains a scheming coward inside--and next to a genuinely big man like Kerry, shrunk before the camera's eyes.
.............
Frankly, I'm amazed by this reversal of fortune. Bush let Kerry get to him. I truly thought Bush would stick to the Reagan playbook and genially shrug off Kerry's criticisms with a grin and a quip, but he's a greater mass of insecurities and arrogant entitlements than even I imagined. I pity the fools who have to prep Bush for the next debate. Because they're sure going to have one pissy pupil on their hands.
http://www.jameswolcott.com/
Last night I believe we saw the ugly comeback of the private face of Bush--the irritable expressions he flashes subordinates when he's presented with information he doesn't like or feels someone's taken up too much of his time or is pressed to explain himself to people he shouldn't have to explain himself to because he's the president and fuck you. The notion that Bush is "likeable" has always been laughable. It takes a Washington pundit to be that dumb. He's an angry, spoiled, resentful little big man--I use "little big man" in the Reichian sense of a small personality who puffs himself up to look big through bluster and swagger but remains a scheming coward inside--and next to a genuinely big man like Kerry, shrunk before the camera's eyes.
.............
Frankly, I'm amazed by this reversal of fortune. Bush let Kerry get to him. I truly thought Bush would stick to the Reagan playbook and genially shrug off Kerry's criticisms with a grin and a quip, but he's a greater mass of insecurities and arrogant entitlements than even I imagined. I pity the fools who have to prep Bush for the next debate. Because they're sure going to have one pissy pupil on their hands.
http://www.jameswolcott.com/
Friday, October 01, 2004
Posted on DU
11. last night on local radio
a frustrated freeper called the host of a non-political radio show:
Freeper: "Well Bush sounded more like a regular guy and Kerry used fancy words like "nuclear proliferation. Who knows what that means?"
Host: "You mean you don't know what nuclear proliferation means in this day and age? Then you sir, are too dumb to vote"
LOL
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x945788
11. last night on local radio
a frustrated freeper called the host of a non-political radio show:
Freeper: "Well Bush sounded more like a regular guy and Kerry used fancy words like "nuclear proliferation. Who knows what that means?"
Host: "You mean you don't know what nuclear proliferation means in this day and age? Then you sir, are too dumb to vote"
LOL
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x945788
Posted on DU:
CornField (265 posts) Fri Oct-01-04 02:35 PM
Original message
My kids just cracked me up -- "playing President"
My 4- and 2-year-old are home today and they have a little friend over, Shawna, age 4. They decided to do their own rebroadcast of the debates. Shawna was the moderator, seated at a desk. My 4-yr-old was Kerry, standing behind a stuffed giraffe, and the 2-yr-old was told to stand behind a stuffed bear and be Bush. So, Shawna began asking questions: "Would you be a mean President?" and so-forth. I enjoyed the show and then left the room.
Next thing I know there is a huge rukus in the debate hall. I go in and the 2-yr-old is trying to pummel the 4-yr-old. I separated them and the 4-yr-old tells me, "He wants to be Kerry, Momma. But he has to be Bush because he doesn't speak too good."
Ain't it the truth, baby
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2438463
CornField (265 posts) Fri Oct-01-04 02:35 PM
Original message
My kids just cracked me up -- "playing President"
My 4- and 2-year-old are home today and they have a little friend over, Shawna, age 4. They decided to do their own rebroadcast of the debates. Shawna was the moderator, seated at a desk. My 4-yr-old was Kerry, standing behind a stuffed giraffe, and the 2-yr-old was told to stand behind a stuffed bear and be Bush. So, Shawna began asking questions: "Would you be a mean President?" and so-forth. I enjoyed the show and then left the room.
Next thing I know there is a huge rukus in the debate hall. I go in and the 2-yr-old is trying to pummel the 4-yr-old. I separated them and the 4-yr-old tells me, "He wants to be Kerry, Momma. But he has to be Bush because he doesn't speak too good."
Ain't it the truth, baby
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2438463
Best of debate
We're facing a group of folks who have such hatred in their heart, they'll strike anywhere, with any means.
.
Of course we're after Saddam Hussein -- I mean bin Laden. He's isolated. Seventy-five percent of his people have been brought to justice. The killer -- the mastermind of the September 11th attacks, Khalid Sheik Mohammed, is in prison.
We're modernizing our borders.
And there's going to be an Arab summit, of the neighborhood countries.
Well, actually he forgot Poland
My opponent just said something amazing. He said Osama bin Laden uses the invasion of Iraq as an excuse to spread hatred for America. Osama bin Laden isn't going to determine how we defend ourselves.
You know, it's hard work to try to love her as best as I can, knowing full well that the decision I made caused her loved one to be in harm's way.
But the enemy attacked us, Jim, and I have a solemn duty to protect the American people, to do everything I can to protect us.
First of all, of course I know Osama bin Laden attacked us. I know that.
: I'm trying to put a leash on them.
In Iraq, no doubt about it, it's tough. It's hard work. It's incredibly hard.
It's-and it's hard work. I understand how hard it is. I get the casualty reports every day. I see on the TV screens how hard it is. But it's necessary work.
We're making progress. It is hard work.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/debateref...
We're facing a group of folks who have such hatred in their heart, they'll strike anywhere, with any means.
.
Of course we're after Saddam Hussein -- I mean bin Laden. He's isolated. Seventy-five percent of his people have been brought to justice. The killer -- the mastermind of the September 11th attacks, Khalid Sheik Mohammed, is in prison.
We're modernizing our borders.
And there's going to be an Arab summit, of the neighborhood countries.
Well, actually he forgot Poland
My opponent just said something amazing. He said Osama bin Laden uses the invasion of Iraq as an excuse to spread hatred for America. Osama bin Laden isn't going to determine how we defend ourselves.
You know, it's hard work to try to love her as best as I can, knowing full well that the decision I made caused her loved one to be in harm's way.
But the enemy attacked us, Jim, and I have a solemn duty to protect the American people, to do everything I can to protect us.
First of all, of course I know Osama bin Laden attacked us. I know that.
: I'm trying to put a leash on them.
In Iraq, no doubt about it, it's tough. It's hard work. It's incredibly hard.
It's-and it's hard work. I understand how hard it is. I get the casualty reports every day. I see on the TV screens how hard it is. But it's necessary work.
We're making progress. It is hard work.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/debateref...
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